Norway Attacked By Muslim; Islam Bears It's Evil Fruit Once Again; UPDATE: Attacker A Fundamentalist "Christian"

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  • Craig 07.22.2011

    Might want to double check your facts because the guy they arrested was NOT a Muslim. Some sources identify him as a Christian. That's what happens when you jump the gun. Let's not forget that according to authorities, Breivik is right-wing and highly critical of Islam. Nothing like being wrong on all counts.

  • The suspect was politically right-wing.

  • The suspect Anders B. Breivik – http://twitter.com/#!/AndersBBreivik

    Was a right wing Christian fundamentalist.

    Oh the irony of your silly headline. Get your facts straight.

  • The suspect Anders B. Breivik – http://twitter.com/#!/AndersBBreivik

    Rightwing Christian fundamentalist.

  • He was an anti-Islamic, right-wing, conservative.
    Check your facts before posting hateful nonsense.This is pathetic.

  • He was an anti-Islamic, right-wing, conservative.

  • Why don’t you correct your headline now that it has been ascertained that the culprit was NOT a muslim but in face a white right wing fundamentalist christian ?
    You do youreself no credit by continuing to lie.

  • An update has now been added, more later when I have time.

  • He may be described as a fundamentalist Christian by Norwegian standards but I find that description a bit strange. In nearly 2 years of extensive commenting on document.no, he referred to Jesus exactly once – when he referred to Obama as Jesus Christ Obama.

    Here is is comment from July 09:

    "I myself am a Protestant and baptized / confirmed to me by my own free will when I was 15

    But today's Protestant church is a joke. Priests in jeans who march for Palestine and churches that look like the minimalist shopping centers. I am a supporter of an indirect collective conversion of the Protestant church back to the Catholic."

    His rants over the 2 years are directed against multiculturalism and in particular Muslims. I believe he was first and foremost – a crazed soul who learned little about Christianity in his Confirmation.

  • Anyone can claim to be a Christian, even a few of the liberal nut-jobs that post here, That doesn't mean that they or you ARE A Christian; Matthew 7:15-20 [NASB] provides us the Words of our Lord and Savior:

    15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
    16 "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
    17 "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
    18 "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
    19 " Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
    20 "So then, you will know them by their fruits."

    IF this man is guilty of this horrific crime, then obviously, his fruits are not consistent with a Christian life. Do not be to quick to claim Christianity for this man, or even that his views are the views of genuine Christians, who deplore such actions. Also, you Muslim sycophants, even if this man were a Christian, he would only be the exception to the rule; whereas with Muslims, murder, brutality, etc. ARE the rule.

  • TC2

    He was NOT a right wing conservative. He did NOT believe in a true conservative party, only that of low tax, and small gov't – he removed himself from the party YEARS ago, as they did not stand for what HE believed in. And yes, he was very anti-muslim and if you lived in Norway, you would see for yourself what has happened there. He and many of the countrymen there are very anti-immigration. The laws seem only to apply to NON muslims, as the Labour Party embraces muslims and sharia law.

    He was a definite ANTI government citizen and make no mistake, what he did was beyond disgusting, and horrendous and has left a scar on Norways soul. But it is said that there is a link to his meeting up with Al-Quida and learning how to help 'them' get even for what they see as injustices to 'their beliefs'. He – as TImothy McVeigh did – had a great hatred for the current government of his country and that is what he acted out on.

    Do not also make the mistake of calling this man a christian, because he can never be called that. And also for the record: this site WAS only taking what Norways headlines were and had any of those who were spewing about it, taken the time to notice: he updated it the page to reflect what Norway was currently saying.

    I also find it highly suspect, there are several groups within Norway, especially at the HIGHLY liberal university of Oslo, who were pushing out how it was going to be found to be a 'right winger nazi' and than hours later that is what was being portrayed. Until MORE comes out, and this individual speaks, or whomever helped him is found (there is said to be at least 2 others) : we don't know that his facebook was NOT compromised and hacked into because that was suggested on several forums in Norway. For all we know, this was someone who was IN the Labour Party and feels they went too far.

  • Ah, so he is not a real Christian. But of course, you are, right? And yet, you fail to realize the absurdity of linking all members of one religion, to a crime commited by specific individuals of said religion. Oh, wait, you do see it – but only when you are the one being identified this way. Sounds like a classic case of “No True Scotsman”!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_scotsman

  • Except horrific things committed in the name of Jesus are the rare exception to the rule where as in Islam it is the rule and has shown itself to be that way by the multitudes of attacks not only on 'infidels' but even among other muslims. Sectarian violence in Iraq, the constant calls by clerics in every Middle Eastern country (and even European and America) for the destruction of Israel, sharia law, the jailing and execution of Christians, converts, and 'blasphemers' of Islam, Muhammed and Allah. We could list the atrocities committed by Islam since it's inception and probably never name them all. Does that make every Muslim a terrorist? No of course not but how many times must we bury our family and friends before we call a spade a spade and identify the root cause of the problem?

    And your 'no true scotsman' analogy has one critical flaw. The scotsman in the story was expounding upon his opinion of what a scotsman should and would act like with nothing to compare it to. In the case of a person claiming to be a Christian you can very easily compare his/her words and actions against those in the Bible. If they're antithetical to one another then a 'true Christian' they are not.

  • Did you know I'm Scotts/Irish? The issue for me is the teachings of Jesus vs Muhammad and the life they lived. Muhammad killed people and Jesus did not. Imagine the absurdity if we tried to parse a violent Jesus with a peaceful Jesus like the Muslims do with Muhammad. A Christian is not being faithful in committing acts like these, while I think a Muslim is being consistent.

  • I am glad a Norwegian was the attacker, and no Muslim. We are no better than anyone else, keep that in mind! If we are to start blaming without knowing the facts, my friends and their great sacrifice will be for NOTHING! s

  • This is EXACTLY the kind of twisted ideology of all hate-mongers, regardless of religion

    Are you familiar with the history of the Christian Church? Can deny the violence, anti-Semitism and child abuse that it has caused and IS causing??

    Being Scots/Irish, how can you NOT be familiar with the Cloyne report and all the cases before it??!!! http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0713/cloynetracker.ht

    And that's JUST ONE REPORT….not to mention all the other countries this is happening in!

    It is just this kind of ignorance and use selective facts that create hate. Get an education. You are a disgrace to the flag you use.

  • There is no HATE here, except that which you, PatM, have brought. You are the only one mentioning HATE. Merely because one person or another disagrees with the homosexual lifestyle, does not mean hate is involved. Nor can you prove that anyone here is hateful. Use the same standards by which you judge others to judge yourself, and someone could call you a "Christian-hater!" (But I bet that you would deny being a "hater.")

    The historical acts of violence to which you refer (I believe that you mean, the Roman Catholic Inquisition) were not done by true Christians. As has been said above, anyone can label himself or herself a "Christian," but that does not mean that that name is correctly applied. I notice that you conveniently left out the anti-Semitism of the followers of Islam. True Christians love and support the people and the country of Israel; indeed we are commanded by Yashua to love all men, but to oppose the sin in the world. The Muslim nations, by and large, call for the destruction of Israel and the murder of all Jews, and indeed call for the murder of anyone who refuses to convert to Islam.

  • I thought this was satire at first. How hopelessly stupid and hypocritical you right wing pseudo – christian evangelical douchebags are. How does it feel to be pigeonholed and have your beliefs associated with a bloodthirsty psychopath? Now you know what you've been doing to the vast majority of Muslims every time an Al-Qaeda type commits some atrocity…..

    Why don't we see christians on the street condemning this atrocity? Isnt that what you ask of every Muslim on the planet when some asshole who happens to call himself Muslim does something horrific?

    And all this shit about "christians aren't violent, Muslims are" please save that nonsense you hypocrites. The U.S military is filled with evangelical nutjobs. Instead of suicide vests and car bombs they go into Muslim countries with state of the art weapons and descimate the populations there.

    Please die and go to hell already you worthless hypocrites.

  • Show me where Jesus said to kill for Him. Why is that Muslim fathers regularly kill their daughters over "honor"? Breivik is obviously not a Christian.
    http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/07/quest

  • "…This guy had no clue about what it means to be a Christian…" but "Muslim" terrorists know what it means to be Muslim, right? Osama bin Laden is muslim terrorist but Breivik is not Christian, right?

    You hypocrites…

  • You sir, are obviously filled with jealousy! By what authority do you, obviously a non-Christian, call us pseudo-Christians? It is clear that you do not have the knowledge or experience to be a judge of Christian behavior! "…..every time an Al-Qaeda type commits some atrocity….. " So, you admit that Al-Qaeda types commit atrocities! And Al-Qaeda is made up of who? Muslims! Ah, yes, and there have been many, many Muslim Terrorist Attacks since 911. But this man Breivik is NOT a Christian, as he himself declared that he rejects Jesus as his personal Savior. The Internet is the modern means to communicate, and unless you are both blind and stupid, you could see that all over the web Christians ARE condemning this atrocity! Ah, yes, we ask Muslims to condemn atrocities committed by fellow Muslims, but they rarely do. Instead, Muslims danced in the streets with Joy when the twin towers fell.

  • And now another Muslim planning to slaughter people in America….
    http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/07/musli

  • Just like you should not be so quick to claim Islam for people who do un-Islamic things. Works both ways! Learn something about Isalm – and not what some so-called Christians claim about Islam.

  • And you continue to 'bear false witness'. And you continue to spread lies – get educated. And you continue to be a bad advertisement for Christianity. If you were a TRUE follower of Christ, you would be a little more humble, have a little bit more humility, and be less judgmental. To 'love' Israel when it practices apartheid on an occupied (illegally, I might add – UN Resolutions to vacate all lands occupied after '67 war that Israel started) is not real love. And, indeed, it is to 'love' evil to condone such actions. I am not for the destruction of the Jewish state, but I do not support the US sending taxpayer money to fund the illegal settlements in the West Bank, or the US using its Security Council veto to keep any official criticism of Israel from happening in the UN. To do for this policy is to be UN Christian. BTW, plenty of Christians – Arab Christians – in the West Bank. Or are those not real Christians either?

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